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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 28, 2015                                                                                           
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly called the Senate Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice-Chair                                                                                              
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy                                                                                                           
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SARA FISHER-GOAD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, Alaska Energy                                                                             
Authority                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SARA FISHER-GOAD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA ENERGY                                                                             
AUTHORITY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:03:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  began  her  presentation,  "Alaska  Energy                                                                    
Authority,  Senate  Finance  Committee: January  28,  2015."                                                                    
(copy  on  file).  She presented  Slide  2,  "Alaska  Energy                                                                    
Authority:  Mission":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "To Reduce the Cost of Energy in Alaska"                                                                                 
        · AEA is an independent and public corporation of                                                                       
          the State of Alaska                                                                                                   
        · Created by the Alaska Legislature in 1976                                                                             
        · 44.83.070: "The purpose of the Authority is to                                                                        
          promote,   develop,   and  advance   the   general                                                                    
          prosperity and  economic welfare of the  people of                                                                    
          the state  by providing  a means of  financing and                                                                    
          operating  power  projects   and  facilities  that                                                                    
          recover and  use waste energy and  by carrying out                                                                    
          the  powers and  duties  assigned to  it under  AS                                                                    
          42.45."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad informed  the  committee that  many of  the                                                                    
powers and  duties relegated to the  authority were assigned                                                                    
by the legislature under statute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  referred  to  Slide  3,  which  offered  a                                                                    
continuum  of  project  development. The  slide  listed  the                                                                    
umbrella  projects:  Energy  Policy  and  Outreach,  Program                                                                    
Development and  Project Evaluation, Operations  and Project                                                                    
Implementation,    AEA-Owned    Infrastructure,   and    the                                                                    
associated sub-projects.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad noted Slide 4, "Collaboration":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Collaboration                                                                                                            
     •   Alaska  Wind   Working   Group:  collaboration   of                                                                    
     government    agencies,     nonprofit    organizations,                                                                    
     businesses  and individuals  interested in  identifying                                                                    
     specific  concerns and  barriers  to and  opportunities                                                                    
     for wind development in Alaska. About 90 participants                                                                      
     • AEA Regional  Energy Planning: a way  for Alaskans to                                                                    
     determine  their  energy  priorities  and  formulate  a                                                                    
     concrete,  implementable, fundable  energy plan.  About                                                                    
     11 subgroups, 169 participants.                                                                                            
     •   Alaska  Energy   Efficiency  Partnership:   AEA-led                                                                    
     working  group  led  that   meets  quarterly  to  share                                                                    
     information    and    capitalize    on    collaborative                                                                    
     opportunities. About 40 participants.                                                                                      
     •  Alaska  Wood  Energy  Development  Task  Group:  was                                                                    
     formed  in 2005  to explore  opportunities to  increase                                                                    
     the use of  wood for energy and  biofuels production in                                                                    
     Alaska. 13 participating organizations                                                                                     
     •  Energy  Ambassadors:  collaboration  with  the  U.S.                                                                    
     Department  of Energy  to  collectively address  energy                                                                    
     issues in Alaska, including  state and federal agencies                                                                    
     and regional partners.                                                                                                     
     • Intra-agency collaboration on energy programs                                                                            
     • Issue specific stakeholder  groups include Power Cost                                                                    
     Equalization, Alaska Affordable Energy Strategy,                                                                           
     Galena  Interagency Recovery  Team,  REAP Rural  Issues                                                                    
     Committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:07:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Fisher-Goad   summarized   Slide   5,   "Focusing   on                                                                    
Communities":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Focusing on Communities                                                                                                  
    • Emphasizing community-based approach to projects                                                                          
     • Technical  assistance, regional planning  and project                                                                    
     management                                                                                                                 
     •  Provide  synergy   between  planning,  projects  and                                                                    
     funding sources                                                                                                            
     • Assist communities to move to project ready status                                                                       
     • Break down internal silos                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:08:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad continued to slide 6, "Power Cost                                                                               
Equalization":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost Equalization                                                                                                  
     •  Provide economic  assistance in  rural Alaska  where                                                                    
     electrical rates  can be  3 to 4  times higher  than in                                                                    
     urban Alaska                                                                                                               
     • PCE created  at a time when State funds  were used to                                                                    
     construct major  energy projects  to serve  urban areas                                                                    
     (Four Dam Pool)                                                                                                            
     • PCE  is a way  for rural communities to  also benefit                                                                    
     from those projects                                                                                                        
     •  Regulatory Commission  of Alaska  (RCA) sets  rates,                                                                    
     calculations based on use, costs and efficiencies                                                                          
     •  The program  reduced power  costs an  average of  55                                                                    
     percent   for  residential   customers  and   community                                                                    
     facilities up to 500 kWh per month.                                                                                        
     •  2014 changed  the regulations  to include  community                                                                    
     facilities                                                                                                                 
     • 192 participating communities                                                                                            
     •   AEA   community   assistance   team   helped   four                                                                    
     communities reinstate in PCE during 2014                                                                                   
     • Only four non-participating communities                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:10:41 AM                                                                                                                    
Ms. Fisher-Goad explained  the graph on Slide  7, "PCE Level                                                                    
Rates." She  stated that the yellow  represented the utility                                                                    
rate prior  to the PCE,  the blue showed the  effective rate                                                                    
after PCE was applied. She  said that the program was aiming                                                                    
for the  base rate,  which was  the average  between Juneau,                                                                    
Fairbanks, and  Anchorage, roughly $14.5 cents  per kilowatt                                                                    
hour.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  queried  the  base  rate  at  which  a                                                                    
community would be eligible for PCE.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Fisher-Goad  responded   that   the   base  rate   was                                                                    
approximately  $14.5  cents.  She   noted  that  there  were                                                                    
several  communities   that  had   costs  below   the  base;                                                                    
Metlakatla,  for example.  She added  that some  North Slope                                                                    
communities received a borough subsidy  in addition to a low                                                                    
amount of PCE.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  wondered  who  has  the  authority  to                                                                    
approve communities under $14.5 cents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher Goad  responded that  some communities  were not                                                                    
regulated and  had a Certificate  of Public  Convenience and                                                                    
Necessity  (CPCN)  through   the  Regulatory  Commission  of                                                                    
Alaska   (RCA).  She   explained  that   for  PCE   eligible                                                                    
communities  that were  not rate  regulated, the  Regulatory                                                                    
Commission  of  Alaska  would examine  the  eligible  costs,                                                                    
similar to a tariff  structure, and evaluate the community's                                                                    
cost based on  similar criteria for fuel  and non-fuel cost,                                                                    
as if they were regulated.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly wondered why Metlakatla  was eligible for PCE                                                                    
when it  had a  power cost under  the average  of Anchorage,                                                                    
Fairbanks, and Juneau.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  responded  that  Metlakatla  was  eligible                                                                    
based upon  the power  the community  generated in  1984, if                                                                    
their costs were  lower, they would not receive  a PCE rate.                                                                    
She said  that none of  the PCE communities would  receive a                                                                    
PCE  rate   that  would  push  them   below  the  Anchorage,                                                                    
Fairbanks, and Juneau base rate.                                                                                                
9:13:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  why Fairbanks  was being  used in                                                                    
the  calculation  when the  city  had  some of  the  highest                                                                    
energy costs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  replied  that the  statute  required  that                                                                    
Regulatory Commission of Alaska  evaluate the floor based on                                                                    
Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Juneau.  She clarified that it was                                                                    
not the entire Fairbanks-Northstar  borough, rather the city                                                                    
of Fairbanks. She  said that only 7 percent  of the weighted                                                                    
rate was impacted by Fairbanks,  the 50 percent of the floor                                                                    
was primarily driven by the Chugiak Electric Association.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  interjected that the calculations  were made                                                                    
at a time when energy was more affordable in Fairbanks.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad agreed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:15:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  that that the calculations  needed to be                                                                    
re-examined due  to the high  energy costs in  Fairbanks She                                                                    
noted  that  Southeast Alaska  would  be  bringing down  the                                                                    
average down, while Fairbanks increased  it. She shared that                                                                    
residents of Fairbanks  and rural Alaska used  50 percent of                                                                    
their disposable income for energy costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly interjected  that he  had been  told that  a                                                                    
significant  rate reduction  could be  expected in  the near                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:16:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop believed  that a  17  percent reduction  was                                                                    
imminent. He supported Co-Chair  MacKinnon in her suggestion                                                                    
to re-examine the PCE calculations.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:16:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  suggested that Ms.  Fisher-Goad provide                                                                    
the committee with the PCE formula.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad replied  that  she would  get  back to  the                                                                    
committee with the information.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:17:17 AM                                                                                                                    
Mr.  Fisher-Goad  continued  to Slide  8,  "Regional  Energy                                                                    
Planning":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     · Energy Pathways led to regional planning                                                                                 
     · Address unique challenges while capitalizing on                                                                          
        regional resources                                                                                                      
     · Locally driven and community-vetted blueprint for                                                                        
        sustainability                                                                                                          
     · Provide specific, actionable recommendations                                                                             
     · Identify means of providing stable and affordable                                                                        
        electric, heat and transportation energy from                                                                           
        renewable and fossil fuels                                                                                              
     · Build capacity at local and regional level to enable                                                                     
        stakeholders to continue planning process                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  related that a Railbelt  Organized Plan and                                                                    
a  Southeast Integrated  Regional Plan  had been  created in                                                                    
order to learn how to  address the unique situations in each                                                                    
region. She added that AEA  had offered technical assistance                                                                    
to local stakeholders, providing  guidance as to what energy                                                                    
plans should look like.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fisher-Goad  summarized  Slide  9,  "Regional  Planning                                                                    
Process":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     · Provides consistent format for planning efforts                                                                          
     · Community-driven process with AEA project management                                                                     
        and policy oversight                                                                                                    
    · Regional priorities not reliant on state funding                                                                          
     · Phased process:                                                                                                          
        o Phase I: Information gathering and working draft                                                                      
          development                                                                                                           
        o Phase II: Stakeholder engagement and feedback                                                                         
        o Phase III: Technical and economic analysis for                                                                        
          final draft development and interface with AkAES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:19:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  turned  to   Slide  10,  "Alaska's  Energy                                                                    
Plans":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's Energy Plans                                                                                                    
     Completed plans                                                                                                          
     • Living documents                                                                                                         
     • Railbelt and Southeast Integrated                                                                                        
     Resources Plans                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     Ongoing plans:                                                                                                           
     • AEA-funded, most often working with                                                                                      
     ARDORs                                                                                                                     
     • Kodiak, Northwest Arctic, Aleut,                                                                                         
     Bering Straits, Bristol Bay, Copper                                                                                        
     Valley, Yukon-Koyukuk/Upper Tanana                                                                                         
     (TCC led), Chugach                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
     AEA Advisory Role:                                                                                                       
     • Lower Yukon-Kuskokwim (Nuvista led)                                                                                      
     North Slope                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad noted Slide  11, "Regional Planning Status,"                                                                    
which offered the region,  contractor/lead entity, and phase                                                                    
status of  plans in the  Aleutians, Bering  Straits, Bristol                                                                    
Bay, Chugach,  Copper River, Kodiak,  Lower Yukon-Kuskokwim,                                                                    
North  Slope,  Northwest   Arctic,  and  Yukon-Koyukuk/Upper                                                                    
Tanana.  She noted  that  most of  the  regional plans  were                                                                    
moving along  nicely and it  was anticipated that  the plans                                                                    
would be  complete and moving  into the next  planning phase                                                                    
of the  Alaska Affordable Energy Strategy  (AkAES) in summer                                                                    
2015.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:20:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  turned to  Slide 12,  "Relationship between                                                                    
Planning  Efforts," which  offered  a  Venn diagram  showing                                                                    
that  the  Regional  Energy  Plan   and  the  AkAES  sharing                                                                    
technical and economic analysis.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:21:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad moved to Slide 13, "Senate Bill 138":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 138                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Affordable Energy Strategy                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Plan   and  recommendations   to  the   Legislature  on                                                                    
     infrastructure needed  to deliver affordable  energy to                                                                    
     areas in the state that do  not have direct access to a                                                                    
     North Slope natural gas pipeline.                                                                                          
     Due: January 1, 2017                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad she stated that  the authority had worked to                                                                    
assure  that  the  regional  plans  included  community  and                                                                    
regional  priorities  that  were  not  necessarily  tied  to                                                                    
whether the state would be funding the projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  presented  Slide  14,  "Electricity".  She                                                                    
state  that  AEA had  attempted  to  categorize how  various                                                                    
regions  were  receiving  electricity and  heat.  The  slide                                                                    
contained a  map portraying the  current use of  natural gas                                                                    
and  renewable   energy  for  electric,  and   included  the                                                                    
following informational key:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Electricity                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     4 Quadrants based on                                                                                                       
     Access to Energy Resources:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1. Natural Gas/Renewables                                                                                                  
     2. No Natural                                                                                                              
     Gas/Renewables                                                                                                             
     3. No Natural Gas/No                                                                                                       
     Renewables                                                                                                                 
     4. Natural Gas/No                                                                                                          
     Renewables                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:24:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  presented  Slide  15,  "Heat".  The  slide                                                                    
contained a map of current  use of natural gas and renewable                                                                    
energy for  heat, and  included the  following informational                                                                    
key:                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Heat                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     4 Quadrants based on                                                                                                       
     Access to Energy Resources:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1. Natural Gas/Renewables                                                                                                  
     2. No Natural                                                                                                              
     Gas/Renewables                                                                                                             
     3. No Natural Gas/No                                                                                                       
     Renewables                                                                                                                 
     4. Natural Gas/No                                                                                                          
     Renewables                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad noted  that there  were  many small,  rural                                                                    
communities that had no natural gas and no renewables.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:25:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  continued  to  Slide  16,  "Cost-Effective                                                                    
Strategies  To  Improve  Energy Affordability".  She  shared                                                                    
that  the id  would be  ideal to  move from  the no  gas, no                                                                    
renewable  quadrant to  a  potentially renewable  situation.                                                                    
The  slide   hypothesized  that   a  wind   project  provide                                                                    
electricity or heat to areas in need.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:25:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  asked whether  it was  a certainty  that the                                                                    
areas  on Slides  15 and  16  were areas  of no  gas and  no                                                                    
renewables.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  responded that the  goal of the  slides was                                                                    
to  categorize what  people were  currently using,  with the                                                                    
hope of  finding potential renewables  or developing  gas in                                                                    
those areas in the future.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  summarized Slide  17, "Strategies  for More                                                                    
Affordable Energy,"  and noted  that energy efficiency  as a                                                                    
strategy could  be used  in any  region. The  slide detailed                                                                    
various strategies to assist communities:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     · Evaluate communities individually on ability to                                                                          
        cost-effectively access to renewable energy or                                                                          
        natural gas.                                                                                                            
     · Provide funding mechanisms, assistance, and other                                                                        
        changes to promote cost-effective measures in                                                                           
        communities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:28:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  stated that the affordable  energy strategy                                                                    
should  fulfill what  the legislature  expected in  the 2017                                                                    
report. She noted  that AEA's goal was to  ensure that there                                                                    
were  no unintended  consequences caused  by the  report and                                                                    
that the  report had  public support.  She thought  that the                                                                    
Southeast  Integrated  Resource  Plan had  offered  learning                                                                    
experience;  the recommendations  on developing  biomass had                                                                    
seen  a  lot  of  support,  but  when  the  plan  was  first                                                                    
developed, biomass development had  not been embraced by the                                                                    
region.  She   hoped  that   lessons  learned   through  the                                                                    
development   of  certain   plans  would   help  people   to                                                                    
understand what the affordable energy plan would entail.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She moved to  Slide 18 reviewed slide  19, "Renewable Energy                                                                    
Grant Fund":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Renewable Energy Grant Fund                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     • Displaces volatile-priced fossil fuels through                                                                           
     hydroelectric, wind, biomass, heat recovery, heat                                                                          
     pumps, solar and transmission of renewables                                                                                
     • Earned national recognition for excellence from the                                                                      
     Clean Energy States Alliance                                                                                               
     • In 2013 13 million gallons of diesel and natural gas                                                                     
     equivalent were displaced                                                                                                  
     • Capitalizes on local energy resources                                                                                    
     • Benefits businesses not eligible for PCE                                                                                 
    • Expands Alaska's renewable energy knowledge base                                                                          
     • Overall Program Benefit Cost Ratio: 2.8 (Based on                                                                        
     first                                                                                                                      
     44 projects in operation)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:32:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman noted  that much of the  displaced diesel in                                                                    
his district  was going toward  wind power, which  was being                                                                    
used for  electricity, and the  result was  an insignificant                                                                    
decrease  in the  cost of  energy.   He  commented that  the                                                                    
driving goal  should be  instituting programs  that actually                                                                    
reduce the cost of energy for the people of Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:33:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche asked  whether PCE  could be  used when                                                                    
moving from diesel to an alternative like wind power.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad replied that one-third  of the energy of PCE                                                                    
eligible communities was  eligible for PCE. She  said that a                                                                    
renewable  energy source  would  impact 100  percent of  the                                                                    
kilowatt  hours generated  in the  community; 60  percent of                                                                    
the kilowatt hours  would receive the direct  benefit of the                                                                    
diesel  displacement.  She said  that  the  State of  Alaska                                                                    
benefited  from  the  savings advantages  of  the  renewable                                                                    
energy fund through  the reduction of the  PCE program draw.                                                                    
She  furthered that  the strength  of the  renewable project                                                                    
was the two-thirds  of kilowatt hours that  were not covered                                                                    
under  the PCE  program.  She noted  that  schools were  not                                                                    
covered under  the PCE  program. If  there were  a renewable                                                                    
project in  a community, a  school would receive  the direct                                                                    
benefit  by  the  cost  going  down  and  the  diesel  being                                                                    
displaced.  She  stated  that   she  could  provide  further                                                                    
information  to the  committee  on the  overlap  of PCE  and                                                                    
renewables.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Micciche   understood  that   theoretically   a                                                                    
community  could enjoy  the benefits  of a  renewable energy                                                                    
project and individual energy costs could go up.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  replied that the  issue was that  the costs                                                                    
would not go down.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche   asked  where  renewable   energy  had                                                                    
replaced  natural  gas in  a  way  that would  reduce  space                                                                    
heating costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher Goad  thought that the project that  had the most                                                                    
impact  was   a  solid   waste  project   through  Anchorage                                                                    
Municipal Light and Power (ML&P).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  noted  that  she  and  Senator  Hoffman                                                                    
served on the Advisory Board  for the Renewable Energy Grant                                                                    
Fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:38:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  presented Slide 19, "REF  Grant and Funding                                                                    
Summary":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Applications Received - 732                                                                                                
     Applications Funded - 277                                                                                                  
     Grants Currently in Place - 122                                                                                            
                     1                                                                                                          
     Amount Requested($M) - $1,442.3                                                                                            
     AEA Recommended ($M) - $398.3                                                                                              
                      2                                                                                                         
     Appropriated ($M)- $247.5                                                                                                  
     Cash Disbursed ($M) - $163.3                                                                                               
                        3                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
    1. Total grant amount requested by all applicants.                                                                          
     2. $12.8 Million was re-appropriated from earlier                                                                          
     rounds for use in Round IV ($10M) and Round VII                                                                            
     ($2.8M).                                                                                                                   
     3. Represents only amounts recorded in the grant                                                                           
     document and does not capture all other funding.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad showed  Slide  20,  "Renewable Energy  Fund                                                                    
Projects, Rounds  I - VII," which  detailed the distribution                                                                    
of the projects and where the resourced lie in the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad presented  Slide 21,  and noted  there were                                                                    
three primary  statutory requirements  for the  program: the                                                                    
most  weight  was focused  on  the  high-cost areas  of  the                                                                    
state,  AEA   was  required  to   have  a   regional  spread                                                                    
throughout  the  state,  and there  had  to  be  significant                                                                    
weight for match provided to  a project. She noted that over                                                                    
the  years  Southeast Alaska  had  benefited  well from  the                                                                    
program, which  was due  to having  large biomass  and hydro                                                                    
resources. She  added that when  the advisory  committee met                                                                    
in January  2014, they  had asked that  the project  list be                                                                    
reviewed; specifically,  the cost  of energy  in communities                                                                    
and  the  possibility of  capping  projects  at a  different                                                                    
level than what  had been traditionally done.  She said that                                                                    
the  list would  be examined  taking into  consideration the                                                                    
three requirements and advisory committee recommendations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:41:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  turned to Slide 22,  "Heating Degree Days,"                                                                    
which offered a map color  coding the heating degree days in                                                                    
the   state.  She   noted   that   there  were   significant                                                                    
temperature differences  throughout the  state on  any given                                                                    
day.  She  said  that  heating  degree  days  were  used  to                                                                    
evaluate  the comprehensive  cost of  energy throughout  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:43:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked for an  explanation of the formula used                                                                    
to discern heating degree days.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   replied  that   she  would   provide  the                                                                    
information to the committee at a future date.                                                                                  
9:45:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if AEA  was getting  any "push-back"                                                                    
from the federal government  or the Environmental Protection                                                                    
Agency (EPA) regarding any of  the fuel sources out lined in                                                                    
the  presentation.   He  wondered  whether  AEA   was  being                                                                    
encouraged to use any particular fuel sources.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad responded  that the  EPA 111D  (targeted to                                                                    
reduce emissions)  had been targeted  to the  Railbelt areas                                                                    
of the  state, the biggest  issues was  the use of  coal for                                                                    
electricity.  She noted  that federal  intervention depended                                                                    
on project-by-project development. The  state was focused on                                                                    
the development  of wind while  the rest of the  country was                                                                    
focused on solar energy; the  state did not have the ability                                                                    
to maintain significant solar development  in the state. She                                                                    
relayed that she could not  point to specific push-back, but                                                                    
different regulatory  hurdles existed for all  projects. She                                                                    
relayed that  AEA had a  good working relationship  with the                                                                    
United  State  Forest  Service   to  develop  small  biomass                                                                    
projects through the wind working group.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:48:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy suggested  that if it were not  for fear of                                                                    
push  back  from the  federal  government,  the state  would                                                                    
utilize more of its coal for cheaper energy.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   responded  that  diesel  has   been  used                                                                    
effectively  in rural  Alaska.  She said  that  she did  not                                                                    
think that coal would be  utilized more in rural communities                                                                    
because  diesel had  already  proved  effective. She  shared                                                                    
that  AEA had  been looking  into combined  heat and  power,                                                                    
with respect  to whether coal  could be a source  of energy.                                                                    
She  stated that  the coal  would still  need to  be shipped                                                                    
into  the smaller  rural communities  and  that the  factors                                                                    
against coal  development were economic rather  than federal                                                                    
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy queried whether more  coal would be used in                                                                    
the Railbelt if it were not for federal considerations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Fisher-Goad  deferred   to   Golden  Valley   Electric                                                                    
Association concerning the hurdles faced by the Railbelt.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:51:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  interjected that it  could be shown  that in                                                                    
Fairbanks, federal  interference resulted in the  burning of                                                                    
more coal,  while simultaneously restricting the  burning of                                                                    
coal in certain areas. He  offered that the University power                                                                    
plant was at  under 25 megawatts in order  to avoid applying                                                                    
for a federal  permit. He argued that the  power plant could                                                                    
have been  built larger, and  served a larger area,  but was                                                                    
limited due  to permitting.  He asserted  that one  big coal                                                                    
plant could provide energy to  the entire Interior of Alaska                                                                    
were it not for "goofy" rules.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:52:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  encouraged AEA  to consider using  coal to                                                                    
provide energy  for the state.  He worried that the  idea of                                                                    
using coal was losing ground in the state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  added that the  coal power plant  that would                                                                    
be  built at  the  University would  have lower  particulate                                                                    
production than gas.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:54:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon spoke  of  the use  of  coal at  Eielson                                                                    
Airforce Base.  She said that federal  government regulation                                                                    
required that additives  be added to the  coal products that                                                                    
were burned in  an effort to reduce  particulate matter. She                                                                    
opined that that  the addition of the  chemicals was raising                                                                    
the price of  coal usage at those  facilities. She suggested                                                                    
that  the  additives  were not  helping  reduce  particulate                                                                    
matter in the environment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:55:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad assured  the committee that, if  there was a                                                                    
desire and  an effort to make  sure that coal was  used as a                                                                    
resource, AEA  wanted to  work with  regions to  bring local                                                                    
priorities to fruition.  She noted that the coal  would be a                                                                    
local resource that would be used for local needs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:56:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  moved to Slide  23, "Renewable  Energy Fund                                                                    
Round VIII  Draft Recommended Projects," and  explained that                                                                    
there was a regional/statewide mix  of projects that AEA had                                                                    
recommended for funding.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:57:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad continued to Slide 24, "Emerging Energy                                                                         
Technology Fund":                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   Emerging Energy Technology Fund                                                                                            
     · Provides funds for projects that can demonstrate                                                                         
        commercial viability within 5 years                                                                                     
     · Includes renewable and alternative energy, storage                                                                       
        and transmission                                                                                                        
     · Nearly $11 million provided to 20 projects                                                                               
     · Projects in Juneau, Fairbanks, Kodiak, Delta                                                                             
        Junction,                                                                                                               
     · Nenana, Nikiski, Igiugig, Tuntutuliak, Kwigllingok                                                                       
        and                                                                                                                     
     · Kotzebue                                                                                                                 
     · Program extended to 2020                                                                                                 
     · Fills an energy development void by providing                                                                            
        infusion of capital to spur private investment in                                                                       
        emerging technology                                                                                                     
     · Synergy between state and business community                                                                             
     · Supports a growing Alaska energy industry                                                                                
     · ORPC Turbine in the Kvichak River                                                                                        
     · Partner with ACEP on data collection                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad summarized Slide 25, "EETF:  Project                                                                            
Highlight":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EETF: Project Highlight                                                                                                       
Ultra-Efficient Generators and Diesel Electric                                                                                
Propulsion (Kodiak)                                                                                                           
   · Technology aims to provide more efficient diesel power                                                                     
     generation                                                                                                                 
   · Can be used in marine propulsion and stationary                                                                            
     powerhouses                                                                                                                
   · Power dense motor and inverter/controller invented by                                                                      
     operators of a machining and fabricating shop in                                                                           
     Kodiak                                                                                                                     
  · Commercial availability anticipated at project's end                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad noted Slide 26, "Energy Spotlight on                                                                            
Alaska," which showed national publications that had                                                                            
discussed the energy issues of Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:01:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad presented Slide 27, "Energy Efficiency and                                                                      
Conservation":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Energy Efficiency and Conservation                                                                                       
     State goal to reduce per capita energy use by 15% by                                                                       
     2020                                                                                                                       
        · AEA's  focus: commercial  buildings, rural  public                                                                    
          buildings, industrial facilities and electrical                                                                       
          efficiency                                                                                                            
        · Statewide       outreach       and       education                                                                    
          AKEnergyEfficiency.org                                                                                                
        · Coordination between State agencies                                                                                   
        · Results:                                                                                                              
        · $1,534,062 and  282,938 diesel  equivalent gallons                                                                    
          in projected savings                                                                                                  
        · Average    immediate   savings    of   implemented                                                                    
          efficiency measures: $0.29 cents/ $1 invested,                                                                        
          300% ROI after 10 years                                                                                               
        · Alaska  Commercial Energy  Audit Program  measures                                                                    
          produce                                                                                                               
        · 30% savings with 6.2 year simple payback                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:02:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad noted slide 28, "Village Energy Efficiency                                                                      
Program":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   Village Energy Efficiency Program                                                                                          
     · Provides grant funding for small, high-energy cost                                                                       
        communities  to  implement  energy   efficiency  and                                                                    
        conservation measures  in the  public buildings  and                                                                    
        facilities.                                                                                                             
     · Eligible applicants include:                                                                                             
          o Municipalities,    cities,   school   districts,                                                                    
             unincorporated villages, Alaska Native regional                                                                    
             and village  corporations, tribal  consortiums,                                                                    
             regional   housing   authorities,   traditional                                                                    
             councils                                                                                                           
     · 2013: Seven projects received $1,381,000                                                                                 
     · Projects include retrofitting lights, replacing                                                                          
        outdated                                                                                                                
     · HVAC equipment and boilers, improving insulation and                                                                     
        building siding and replacing windows.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:03:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  stated  that  AEA wanted  to  make  energy                                                                    
efficiency a cornerstone of  the affordable energy strategy.                                                                    
She explained Slide 29, "Revisiting Nightmute":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Revisiting Nightmute                                                                                                     
        · Revisited Nightmute as a collaborative model                                                                          
        · Multiple state partners, regional organizations,                                                                      
         the city of Nightmute and private sector                                                                               
        · Multiple energy efficiency efforts simultaneously                                                                     
          implemented in the community in 2009                                                                                  
        · After five years:                                                                                                     
             o the average house and community building cut                                                                     
               energy use in half                                                                                               
             o projected annual fuel savings to the village                                                                     
               store alone were estimated at $10,639                                                                            
             o community lighting upgrades resulted in more                                                                     
               than                                                                                                             
             o $14,000 in annual estimated savings                                                                              
             o total   annual   energy   savings   for   the                                                                    
               community was calculated around $75,000.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad revealed that waiting  five years to revisit                                                                    
the community was too long;  the visit should have been made                                                                    
one  or two  years into  the  process to  determine how  the                                                                    
retrofits were  being maintained. She felt  that the overall                                                                    
results  had  been positive.  She  shared  that having  many                                                                    
agencies  come  into  a  community  all  at  once  had  been                                                                    
overwhelming  and had  spread the  community thin.  She said                                                                    
that this would be considered in future endeavors.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:06:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman noted that $75,000  might not seem like much                                                                    
money over 10 years. He  requested a description of the size                                                                    
of the community of Nightmute.                                                                                                  
Ms.  Fisher-Goad believed  that the  community consisted  of                                                                    
under 200 people.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:07:17 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked how many  communities were close to                                                                    
Nightmute, but not connected by road.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  responded that she  did not  currently have                                                                    
that information.  She added that  AEA's goal in  doing coal                                                                    
retrofits was to maximize  efficiency through the systematic                                                                    
review of nearby communities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:08:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  noted her appreciation of  the community                                                                    
of  Nightmute, but  that a  connection  of a  one mile  road                                                                    
would have provided benefit to two other villages.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:09:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   commented  that  part  of   the  regional                                                                    
planning  had considered  the economy  of scale  of regional                                                                    
transition lines  to be able to  connect smaller communities                                                                    
to a large powerhouse in another community.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad moved  to Slide  30, "Bulk  Fuel and  Rural                                                                    
Power System Upgrades":                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   Bulk Fuel and Rural Power System Upgrades                                                                                  
     · Help utilities improve efficiency, safety and                                                                            
        reliability of power systems                                                                                            
          o Promote local hire and training                                                                                     
     · Completed about $340 million in rural bulk fuel and                                                                      
        rural power system upgrade projects since 2000, in                                                                      
        partnership with Denali Commission                                                                                      
     · Circuit Rider program provides mechanical training                                                                       
          o 28 circuit rider visits to communities and                                                                          
             approximately                                                                                                      
          o 3,300 phone assistance instances                                                                                    
     · Emergency response stabilizes power during lights                                                                        
        out or near-emergency situations                                                                                        
         o Four emergencies in calendar year 2014                                                                               
     · Looking at training models to increase local                                                                             
        capacity                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad stated  that even  with the  integration of                                                                    
renewable resources in a community,  a strong powerhouse and                                                                    
stable  electrical   system  were  necessary  in   order  to                                                                    
integrate renewables into the system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:12:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  was glad to  hear that AEA was  working with                                                                    
Alaska Vocational  Technical Center  (AVTEC). He  added that                                                                    
the systems were only as good  as the people trained to keep                                                                    
them running and in good condition.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:12:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  explained  Slide   31,  "RPSU  Savings  to                                                                    
Communities,"  and noted  that RPSU  and bulk  fuel projects                                                                    
had   been  funded   with  grant   funds  since   2000.  She                                                                    
highlighted that  the slide illustrated what  the cost would                                                                    
be to debt-finance  the projects. She said  that there would                                                                    
be an  increased cost  to communities  of $.19  per kilowatt                                                                    
hour, on  top of the  rate that they were  currently paying,                                                                    
if they were funded in a debt service fashion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:14:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad moved to Slide 32, "Susitna-Watana Hydro":                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   Susitna-Watana Hydro                                                                                                       
     · Safe and Effective Field Work                                                                                          
          o Data collection complete for 13 FERC-approved                                                                       
             studies                                                                                                            
          o Advancing the state of science for agencies to                                                                      
             better manage resources                                                                                            
     · Filed the Initial Study Report with FERC                                                                               
     · Report to the Legislature Distributed Jan. 20                                                                          
     · Data Collection and Findings Similar to                                                                                
     · 1980s effort                                                                                                           
          o Fish distribution                                                                                                   
          o Geomorphically stable river system                                                                                  
          o Bird migration and breeding                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:16:01 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator  Bishop queried  the  relationship  between AEA  and                                                                    
Alaska Native corporations on the hydro project.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  responded that that relationship  was quite                                                                    
good. She  added that the  team from AEA met  regularly with                                                                    
the  village  corporations  to discuss  the  status  of  the                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  corrected his  earlier statement  that there                                                                    
were 12  coal power plants  in Fairbanks, he  qualified that                                                                    
he  had meant  12 in  Interior  Alaska, and  added that  the                                                                    
figure  was actually  lower than  12. He  surmised that  the                                                                    
number was closer to 8.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad presented  Slide  33,  "Chinook Salmon  and                                                                    
Devils  Canyon,"   which  provided   information  concerning                                                                    
tagged Chinook salmon and Devils Canyon:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   Chinook Salmon and Devils Canyon                                                                                           
     · Salmon spawn in tributaries and off-channel habitats                                                                     
     · Chinook salmon only anadromous fish documented above                                                                     
        Devils Canyon                                                                                                           
          o Less than half of a percent of the total                                                                            
             Susitna River Chinook escapement                                                                                   
     · 97 to 99% of tagged Chinook spawned in the                                                                               
        tributaries                                                                                                             
     · 93 to 97% of Coho tagged in the Lower River spawned                                                                      
        in tributaries                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She  stated that  the tagged  Chinook were  spawning in  the                                                                    
tributaries. She stressed that  a significant portion of the                                                                    
funding  AEA received  from the  state had  gone toward  the                                                                    
environmental  effort and  putting together  a good  license                                                                    
application.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:19:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  summarized   Slide  34,  "Engineering  and                                                                    
Costs":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   Engineering and Costs                                                                                                      
     · Board of Consultants endorsed Roller Compacted                                                                           
        Concrete and dam configuration                                                                                          
     · 2014 drilling confirmed no active faults found at                                                                        
        the proposed dam site                                                                                                   
     · Mean annual energy- 2,800 gigawatt hours                                                                                 
     · Most probable cost $5.65 billion (range $5 to 6.2                                                                        
        billion)                                                                                                                
     · Combination of debt financing options can provide                                                                        
        50-year average wholesale power at about 7 cents per                                                                    
        kilowatt hour                                                                                                           
     · Cost of power would equal natural gas within 9 years                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad shared  that AEA had seen  a confirmation of                                                                    
what   had  been   assumed  when   the  legislature   passed                                                                    
authorization for AEA to move forward with the project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:20:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  queried  the seasonal  fluctuation  of                                                                    
gigawatt hours.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad said she could  get back to the committee on                                                                    
the   projected   seasonal   fluctuation  modeled   on   the                                                                    
operational cost.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:21:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop asked what the  metered price of energy would                                                                    
be as a result of the hydro plant.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  replied that,  assuming the  plant followed                                                                    
the Bradley Lake model, the  wholesale cost would be $.7 per                                                                    
kilowatt  hour, but  would change  depending on  the mix  of                                                                    
utilities  involved.   She  furthered   that  the   cost  in                                                                    
Fairbanks would be different from the cost in Anchorage.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:22:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop stated that the  information was important to                                                                    
the discussion.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad offered to provide  a more detailed response                                                                    
at a later date.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:22:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  explained Slide  35, "AEA  Budget Summary,"                                                                    
and noted  that the Operating  Budget for AEA was  still the                                                                    
Work-In-Progress budget  that had been released  on December                                                                    
15, 1014.  She noted that  some of the  previously mentioned                                                                    
programs were  embedded in the  Capital Budget.  She pointed                                                                    
out  that there  were  a  bulk fuel  tank  farm and  several                                                                    
powerhouses that  were slated for funding  in the Governor's                                                                    
Budget.  She  added  that  money  for  the  Emerging  Energy                                                                    
Technology  Fund and  Electrical  Emergencies Response  were                                                                    
listed  in the  summary, as  well  as $2.2  million for  the                                                                    
Alternative Energy and Energy Efficiency Programs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy said  that there  were "stranded  areas of                                                                    
energy" in his  district. He asked whether  an attempt would                                                                    
be  made to  utilize  interties  in order  to  make use  the                                                                    
stranded energy  in the  Railbelt and  reduce costs  for all                                                                    
involved.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  responded  that AEA  had  commissioned  an                                                                    
energy study  focused on how to  strengthen the transmission                                                                    
system  throughout the  Railbelt.  She  offered that  former                                                                    
Senator Gene  Therriault, Deputy Director,  Statewide Energy                                                                    
Policy  Development, Alaska  Energy Authority, Department of                                                                    
Commerce,  Community and  Economic  Development  was in  the                                                                    
gallery for further questions on the issue.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  he  believed  that the  issue  should  be                                                                    
explored.  He requested  the PFM  financial report,  the MWH                                                                    
Global  cost   report,  the  AECOM  cost   report,  and  the                                                                    
Independent  Feasibility report.  He asked  whether AEA  had                                                                    
responded  to  criticism  of  their   fish  study  from  the                                                                    
National Marine  Fisheries, and  whether the  response could                                                                    
be made available to the  committee. He noted that any other                                                                    
fish study reports that had  been done should be shared with                                                                    
the  committee. He  wondered whether  the  reports could  be                                                                    
posted online for the public.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   replied  that  several  of   the  reports                                                                    
referenced  by  Senator  Dunleavy   had  already  been  made                                                                    
available to  the committee.  She noted  that Administrative                                                                    
Order 271 had suspended  project activity, which had stalled                                                                    
the  filing of  some  Federal  Energy Regulatory  Commission                                                                    
(FERC)  reports. She  assured the  committee that  copies of                                                                    
whatever  reports were  available would  be provided  to the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:29:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:29 a.m.                                                                                         

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Alaska Energy Authority